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4 to 8 Decks
Dealer stands on soft 17
Blackjack pays 3:2
No surrender
Double after splits allowed
Dealer peeks for blackjack
Pretty much the standard rule set for American casino's, my local casino being the Hardrock Casino in Hollywood, FL.
Now to my question..
Let's say I have a hard 13 and the dealer's up card is an 8. In this situation my chart says to hit. So, let's say I hit and draw a 2 making my hand a hard 15. Do I go back to the chart and look what a hard 15 does against the dealer's 8 OR do I make a decision on my own to hit or stand? In other words, it's unclear to me as to whether or not the basic strategy chart only applies to your first two starting cards or if you keep referring to it as you hit. I hope what I'm trying to get across here is understandable. Please advise. Also, please feel free to leave any tips or advice for someone that's still in the learning phase of this game. Thanks.
I am a novice beginner blackjack player. I've recently discovered and learned how basic strategy works, but haven't put it into action yet. The rules for the chart I'm reading off of are as follows:
4 to 8 Decks
Dealer stands on soft 17
Blackjack pays 3:2
No surrender
Double after splits allowed
Dealer peeks for blackjack
Pretty much the standard rule set for American casino's, my local casino being the Hardrock Casino in Hollywood, FL.
Now to my question..
Let's say I have a hard 13 and the dealer's up card is an 8. In this situation my chart says to hit. So, let's say I hit and draw a 2 making my hand a hard 15. Do I go back to the chart and look what a hard 15 does against the dealer's 8 OR do I make a decision on my own to hit or stand? In other words, it's unclear to me as to whether or not the basic strategy chart only applies to your first two starting cards or if you keep referring to it as you hit. I hope what I'm trying to get across here is understandable. Please advise. Also, please feel free to leave any tips or advice for someone that's still in the learning phase of this game. Thanks.
Welcome. Yes, go back to the chart. If the dealer has a seven or higher hit until you get a hard 17.
I have also had many comments about the advice on a player 16, composed of 3 or more cards, against a 10. As a rule of thumb, the player should stand in that situation. However, that is a basic strategy exception. The game only knows basic strategy.
http://wizardofodds.com/play/blackjack/
And good luck to you.
I am a novice beginner blackjack player. I've recently discovered and learned how basic strategy works, but haven't put it into action yet. The rules for the chart I'm reading off of are as follows:
4 to 8 Decks
Dealer stands on soft 17
Blackjack pays 3:2
No surrender
Double after splits allowed
Dealer peeks for blackjack
Pretty much the standard rule set for American casino's, my local casino being the Hardrock Casino in Hollywood, FL.
I would be shocked if Hard Rock stood on soft 17. Most casinos nationwide hit soft 17.
What is the logic behind this exception on a 4 to 8 deck game? Personally if I DRAW 3 cards and wind up with 16 then I'll just give up and stand. Thanks.
Hard 16 vs. 10, stand if three or more cards
What is the logic behind this exception on a 4 to 8 deck game? Personally if I DRAW 3 cards and wind up with 16 then I'll just give up and stand. Thanks.
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Standing on 16 vs 10 is the correct play on any positive running count.
Disregarding all other cards out (because as a BS player, youre not counting them), if you have a 3-card 16 vs a dealer 10, the majority of the time it will be a positive running count.
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Rules
6 Decks
Re split any card 4 times
DAS
Blackjack pays 6:5
Dealer hits S17
Late Surrender pays 3:5
I found a hand by hand software where I figured out it was optimal to surrender 13 to 10 showing ect ect, but a Strategy chart would be nice too.
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7 | 9 | A |
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ChesterDog,
Using the WoO's Blackjack Appendix 9 - 6 Decks, Dealer Hits Soft 17
(available at https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/appendix/9/6dh17r4/)
I concur that all the hands you posted should be surrendered.
However, I also found that 7,7 should be surrendered vs. a dealer's 9, X, or A as well. In each case, without the 3:5 LS, the BS play is to Hit, and the Hit EV's are -0.437912, -0.474064, and -0.477592, respectively: all lower than the -0.4 for 3:5 LS.
Hope this helps!
Dog Hand
I got the same as you except I get 77 should have some surrenders as well.
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I just spent 25 mins trying to figure out how to post pictures of a basic strategy since my picture wasn't posting. Then I realized 'New members are not allowed to post links until they reach 20 posts.' DOH!
Anyway the extra hands I got for surrender is
HAND
77 SURENDER TO 9, 10, A
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Given how many hands that basic strategy says you should surrender on with a 3:5 surrender rule I think that such a rule would change the nature of the game too much. Also, it would slow it down - the dealer would be constantly making change.
I mean, its not a lot of fun hitting stiff hands vs 9, 10, A but sometimes you hit a 14 and draw a 7 and it is a bit of a thrill. But surrendering all those hands - no fun in that.
Also, 'card consumption' would go down - meaning that card counters would get more hands out of a shoe -particularly when the TC is + and dealer is more likely to get a Ten, lol.
Welcome to the forum, happahero. Always nice to see new members that can think about game changes in a logical way.
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Given how many hands that basic strategy says you should surrender on with a 3:5 surrender rule I think that such a rule would change the nature of the game too much. Also, it would slow it down - the dealer would be constantly making change..
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The house should love any surrender option. Every table I've EVER PLAYED AT EVER that has surrender has people surrendering ALL KINDS of hands they should not be surrendering. The house makes a killing on these people that don't know how to surrender, and I would be willing to wager much more than the few hands per hour they'd lose for the dealer making change.I once had a woman HATE surrender so much (changed the flow of the cards) that she purchased my hand at FULL value when I wanted to surrender, then she'd play the horrible hand. This went on for almost 2 hours until she just simply kept busting on my 15's and 16's and cried uncle.
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happaheroBeen a lurker for years but I have made it my resolution to start contributing more from now on :)
Blackjack Pays 3 To 2
..Anyway the extra hands I got for surrender is
HAND
77 SURENDER TO 9, 10, A Toto and yes casino del sol.
Yes--I agree.
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By the way, once my friends and I happened on a table of all inexperienced players and an inexperienced dealer who would pay 1 for 1 on late surrender.